Yes, you're typically out-spotted by about 500m. You just have to retrain yourself from instantly mashing a WASD key when you get detected by another DD. With that in mind, you absolutely can bully any other DD (except T10s or the Z-46) in a knife-fight. The key here is that you take SE, and accept that you'll take damage. Plus, I only have a 12pt captain with 2 pts. Struggling to find the sweet spot with this boat. The Hydro is ok, but I have that on my LoYang. At T7, the Blyskawica and the Leningrad are much better boats that would seem better at T8 than the Z23, at least for me. I put the steering gears mod on but this thing is so sluggish, the 150's are OK, but nothing to write home about especially if your fighting another DD, the torps are good but the reload is kind of long, sluggish turrets, very slow to get moving from a stop (I realize you lose a bit without propulsion 2), the whole boat seem rather Meh. I feel your pain so far, I am not really enjoying this boat much. its so bad akizuki without CE out spots you :C but honestly just use it for torps. I'm thinking of reworking the skipper too, and going with DE instead of Super (I'm already running premium consumables, I think). I'm seriously thinking of stepping down to the 128's (I got out-shot by an Akatsuki in the last game I played). I really like the way Torpedo Armament Expertise is working so far. But I am getting absolutely chopped-up early and often. I'm not rushing caps, but trying to get into them from the flanks after enemy DD's have given away their positions. But even when there's no radar or planes in the area, I'm still out-spotted by other DDs. I've spent a lot of time on Tier X games, bathed in radar, and with enemy airplanes constantly buzzing about overhead. My concealment is marked as 6.2, and I seem to be out-spotted by everything afloat. The captain is is 15 points, using: PT & PM for level 1 LS for level 2 TAE and Super for level 3 and CE for level 4. I've got Main Armament 1, Propulsion Mod 1, Aiming Systems Mod 1, Propulsion Mod 2, and Concealment Systems. I'm running the 150's, on Hull B, with the upgraded torps and upgraded fire control system. I run this mainly as a torpedo boat with guns, rather than a gunboat with torpedoes.

I did very well with the Geade and Maass, but I must be missing something with the Z-23. I've won only 2 of my 10 games so far, and I feel like something is off. I recently got the Z-23, and I have to admit that I'm struggling a bit.

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